You guys were not Jesus salesmen.
Jehovahs witnesses dont believe Jesus is God.
so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.
question is what do i replace it with?.
my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.
You guys were not Jesus salesmen.
Jehovahs witnesses dont believe Jesus is God.
so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.
question is what do i replace it with?.
my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.
Yeah, that's an "appeal to personal experience" and "appeal to popularity" argument.
Of course, the mileage you and others obtained is not a universal guarantee that it works for others. In fact, if it offered guaranteed results, then medicine would be forced to prescribe Bibles to convicts and criminally-insane individuals, announcing it as a miracle cure.
It kind of is. I am a detention officers. Prisoners that go to bible study get out of lockdown wich is seen as a privalege.
Its a management system. I immagine doctors are involved with formulating prison management systems of various states.
I agree there is no universal guarantee.
I'm not getting anything out of telling people there are answers in the bible. It works if you work it.
If somebodies car was broke down and I knew what was wrong with it, I would tell them.
If you want what somebody has, you have to do what they did to get it.
I have seen a lot of people that have peace and happiness, and they believe in Jesus and the bible.
I work with many people in a jail and the officers that are happy and have peace and like coming to work
believe in God and the bible and the officers that are unhappy and misserable for the most part are lost and confused
and dont believe in God or the bible.
It was the same in my previous career as a tool maker.
I dont go to church, I dont do anything but believe in Jesus. I'm not selling anything.
so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.
question is what do i replace it with?.
my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.
Man is a triune being; spirit, soul and body.
Prove it.
I know I cant prove it, thats why I point out that the sripture says each person must work out his own salvation.
In my life taking care of my spiritual aspect has worked for me and I have seen others it has worked for.
I have also seen those who didnt tend their garden kill them selves and end up in psych wards. I have spent a career
of cutting people off walls and ceilings in the county jail who didnt tend their garden. Then I get to sit with them in the hospital, and they tell me,
how they got there.
But thats me my life and my salvation being worked out. You have to see or not see for yourself.
so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.
question is what do i replace it with?.
my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.
It's just I can't quite get my head round all the implications of there being no God at all yet it actually feels like the most logical conclusion.
This is what I think about your statement above.
I can see your point, but if I embrace that point then I become spiritually dead.
Man is a triune being; spirit, soul and body.
I agree with many of the above posters as Joe Grundy said, I question everything.
And as leavingwt said "God has a sense of humor and is in no hurry" to that I will add, Life
is a journey enjoy the ride.
I have read most of Dawkins, and Sam Harris, some of Hitchens. Just to cover all the basses.
I have also read the bible cover to cover numerous times.
I question everything, and try to be aware of as much as I can.
What I take from the bible, is that the only thing that the God of this universe, the God of life wants
from us is to have faith in him. And I also take from the bible that the God of this life is Jesus and if
I believe in him I will have eternal life.
I try to keep it that simple and not worry about the details, the scripture says we are saved by faith.
The scriptures also say each person must work out his own salvation,
In my life the working out my salvation is maintaining the simple faith that there is a God and if I believe in
him everyting will work out.
For me the simple saying "know God know peace, No God no peace" is true.
If I believe there is a God and he wants me to have faith that everything will be alright, I have peace.
If I keep trying to put God under the microscope and prove him by my and mans understanding, if I keep trying to
peel away the layers of God as if he is an onion, then God will be an onion and when I peel away all the layers
I will have tears in my eyes.
the thread title is self-explanatory ... .
... i'll start things off in no particular order.
the scorpionsabbagolden earring .
Golden Earring
Shocking Blue
if i write a book(scratch) about my life as a deaf jw since birth and ex jw, i would like to criticize few dubbies but i would not name them at all.
would i be free from libel lawsuit if i do not name them?
there are many details that i have never told you.
James Brown, do you think I will be okay if I do not use their real names in the book and I will not get sued?
Thats what I would do.
That is what a lot of famous authors have done.
Just change the names.
i'm male, in my early twenties, and i don't know how to cook.
if one day i blow my cover i will have to move out and fend for myself.
my question is what frozen meals or quick fix meals do you recommend for a single guy?
When I moved out on my own at 19 I ate a lot of McDonalds cheseburgers, fish sandwiches and french fries.
Im still alive at 60 and I'm not fat. I seldom eat McDonalds at this time in my life.
Food I made in my apartment, chicken pot pie, chipped beef on toast. Steak. Balony and mayonase sandwich,
Salami sandwich. I would go to a restarant and get roast beef and mashed potatoes on white bread or turkey and mashed
potatoes on white bread. I didnt like to keep food in my apartment because my room mate would eat it all and leave me nothing.
if i write a book(scratch) about my life as a deaf jw since birth and ex jw, i would like to criticize few dubbies but i would not name them at all.
would i be free from libel lawsuit if i do not name them?
there are many details that i have never told you.
Polygraphs are not admissable in court, they are easily manipulated.
here we go ... .
ac/dcbob marleythin lizzyu2average white bandtriumph .
Golden Earring
we recently had a thread highlighting the best british bands.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/230126/1/best-british-bands.
it seems only fair to have a similar thread about american bands.. .
here's my own top ten.... 1. the eagles.
Aerosmith
ZZ Top
Lynrd Skynrd
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Blue Oyster Cult
Mothers of Invention
Steppenwolf
James Gang
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Santana